Yeah let's take a B tier tournaments results that have only 5 players playing and barely Byzantines got played LOL.
Anyway they need a nerf, they are so dumb and imbalanced with their cheap dirt counters and broken cheap imp. This is regardless the tons of bonuses they have.
Exactly. Since I am a Hoang fan (and I myself all-in player) I will indeed convince him that the least thing important is the eco or macro, just look at the legend Hoang and you will know.
Macro is just laughable thing, and majority votes means nothing and they are not an evidence. I mean look...
No it is not about the better player. This civ is just imbalanced and very hard to play against. Even Viper himself once said that he hates to play against Byzantines. They are so problematic.
The cheap counters bonus alone is so tough, this is regardless the broken cheap imp and their insane...
what do you explain them being in top 5 in +2.5K ELO with 58.5% winrate and even in +1.9K with very good winrate and also picked/banned every tournament?! You called them avg civ and they are one of the most imbalanced civs in the game imo and they have huge advantages.
They will still strong. But 25% discount for units and 33% imp is just too much. 15% units and 20% imp won't hurt. They are so imbalanced with 25% for all counters and 33% imp this is regardless the insane free town watch and town patrol.
I will discuss with you here what make Byzantines imbalanced and why it is hard to deal with them.
I think all of you know that Byzantines have a very high winrates in the high ELOs and you will mostly see them in top 5 in the ladder at the high ELO and always being picked/banned every...
I really would like to see him in FE team. I believe a guy like him will make the balance and the game much better.
Not completely disagree. If you look at my topic " Some Balance suggestions for the better". I suggested to not make monks able to garrison in TCs and make Hersy tech available...
IMO and with all due respect, I think between all the pros, only TheViper has good critical thinking. There is a big difference between a pro who knows only how to play and a pro who has a good insight, deep knowldege and good critical thinking. They are not the same.
The other thing exactly as...
Who cares. There are many civs not top 10 and if the civ was fine in general why to give it a buff especially eco buff for a civ who has one of the best eco bonuses in the game. Viper rated them B tier even without the last buffs.
It is really weird how a civ like Hindustanis got huge buffs last patch considering how the civ is really good! They buffed their UU and also the castle UT now is cheaper and give market 10% free fee.
Hindustanis already have broken gunpowder and insane camels and their UU is already strong and...
Ha Ha Ha so funny. At least change the title to not make people getting confused.
Guys this topic is fake and this is the original one if someone wants to discuss a better future for the game: https://www.aoezone.net/threads/some-balance-suggestions-for-the-better.186263/
I really want to...
What do you mean?! Having this tech cheaper and available will actually help the elephant play more not kill it! This will make them more viable not less LOL! It seems you didn't even understand the guy reply. I will explain it to you what does he mean.
He means if we make Herey cheaper this...
It won't change anything since elephants barely see any use anyway since they are not cheap. If you mean then teamgames or closed maps it will also change nothing since in these maps you will already have good eco so even if it costs 1000 they can easily do it. My suggestion would help in open...
You guys should review yourselvs instead of mocking or trolling everytime. When I write a post all what I see is "Haha..Haha..no" without putting any real arguments and without any constructive talk and without any sound logical critical thinking, you say no just for the sake of saying no.
If...
There are many civs way worse than Vietnamese and they did nothing to them. The devs have no clue what are they doing. They even buffed Britons and Byzantines and Konnik and Hindsutanis last patch LOL! Also at the sametime none of the imbalanced strong civs received a nerf.
So what? They got 50% winrate and Viper rated them A. Literally no one suggested from the Pros or high elo players to buff a civ like Vietnamese. All the suggestions came from low elo legends and unfortunately the devs took it and approved.
They do, and Vietnamese were picked and will still be picked in every tournament. Anyway it is not like every game will go as you want.
On the other hand you should look at the civ itself. Vietnamese have a very good eco already with the free wood on eco upgrades, enemy TC available which also...
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