Re: CotH Semi Final - VIK_Vinchester vs _DauT_ (ser
In the Continental game Vinch had all the gold in the map. He was fighting Skirmishers and Onagers with Arbalests and Onagers.
I know, the British cavalry isnt the best in any way. But having so much gold I don't understand why he did not get Cavalier upgrade and just tried to fight with Cavaliers. Even unupgraded cavaliers would have been countering anything DauT had. And as long as he can defend all golds in the map he would definitively have been able to afford it.
Imagine 5 Cavaliers on the middle where DauT got all his wood!
Re: CotH Semi Final - VIK_Vinchester vs _DauT_ (ser
I’m not an expert and I haven’t seen the games. This is just a suggestion based on theory.
Looking at the researches tab on the uploaded rec, DauT got Forging, Iron Casting and Blast Furnace for his Light Cavalry and he had fully upgraded elite skirmishers that could compete with any civ.
All DauT would have needed is wood for barracks and only 90 gold (which is nothing) for Pikeman technology. Without spending any more gold he could have put squires, tracking and scale mail armour on them as well.
So Vinchester upgrades to Cavalier for 300 gold and then it’s 75 gold per unit while DauT spams endless Japanese super-Pikeman for only ZERO gold.
Thanks to Japs amazing free infantry bonus (4 strikes in the time taken for other civs to strike 3 times) and Brits lack of Bloodlines, DauT wouldn’t have needed Halberdiers. He saves 600 gold for more siege or other techs.
I think Vinchester did this evaluation during the game. Japanese and Goths are the two of the best spear line civs in the game thanks to their bonuses and techs. They are horrible to face if you have a cavalry civ because it means that you have to do something other than cavalry, which means that they can probably match or beat whatever you do instead you in that department as they both have great skirms, champs and hand cannoneers.
Vinchester probably thought “Yeah, if DauT goes Pikes he can kill me all day without spending any gold.”
Japanese trash is very good. The spear and skirm lines are fully upgradeable and the Light Cav, although many perceive it as a weakness without bloodlines and plate barding armour, is still devastating when used as intended, against monks, villagers and siege.
Japanese are definitely an underrated civ on many maps. In the hands of DauT, in this tournament, even more so.
That said, Vinchester could have benefitted from being gold efficient if he’d researched Elite Skirmisher for only 160 gold. He already had all the upgrades from the Arbalests. Brits skirms only lack thumb ring but they do get 5+4 range because they benefit from Yeomen.
The most useful trash line to upgrade is the skirm line because when they are fully upgraded and massed they are effective at killing everything, including the other 2 trash lines. The only units they struggle against are the knight-line and siege.
Vinchester could have used his skirms to go head to head with DauT’s skirms, and more than coped if DauT had gone Pikes. The gold saved from no longer making Arbalests goes towards those Cavalier and more siege. For the cost of 2 arbalest Vinch also gets his own pikemen if he did need something more against the Light Cav.
Re: CotH Semi Final - VIK_Vinchester vs _DauT_ (ser
About continental: fortified walls to secure the golds and ships to kill dauts eco would ve done the job imo. Amazing game, one of the best ive seen lately, well played by both
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