Finally, I was still reviewing forums, gonna watch it now.Is out and already there is a thread in this forum discussing that interview
Finally, I was still reviewing forums, gonna watch it now.Is out and already there is a thread in this forum discussing that interview
I initially thought he was referring to the first video that Masmorra talked about in the beginning of the video.Is out and already there is a thread in this forum discussing that interview
t90, you can put the advertise in a pop up, like memb with nordvpn. there is place to put litle pop ups with the diferent sponsors. and they can be like 10-20 secs and you name them. its just an idea.I can shed some light on this if you guys are interested. It’s important to keep in mind my experiences may be different from others and I don’t have all the answers.
First off, everyone seems to overlook the most important metric when it comes to streaming deals & sponsorships. That is not viewer peak, it is not total views, but instead hours watched. The reasoning for this is simple, sponsors want their ads to be seen as much as possible and for that viewers need to stay. So in theory (pulling numbers outta my ass here) someone getting 5k viewers consistently with longer term watch time is more valuable than someone averaging 2k but occasionally peaking at 10k here or there. This is the main thing streaming platforms and content creators are judged by.
I only have this data for my own content, but I have to imagine AoE2 performs really well in these areas compared to most communities. The game is one you need to pay attention to, and can run on for a great period of time. The problem though, is advertisers want to be seen at a rate that just doesn’t match AoE2. Hard to get your product plugged at proper times when a game can take a full hour, or when the length & times of a set can vary so greatly. Combine this with sponsors always offering “safe” deals regardless (meaning they aim low & assume the worst to ensure the deal is always somewhat profitable) it can lead to offers not being as exciting as one might hope.
I can’t speak for others but I felt constantly undervalued when speaking to sponsors for my events. They straight up did not believe the numbers I projected, or if they did but wanted a million intrusions. For HC4 I wanted huge numbers when it was clear I was at my max from MS (a whole different convo) I went searching, and the BEST offer I got was 25k IF, each Bo5 had video segments, each YT video had sponsored intros, and a bunch of other things that would make the viewing experience way worse. As a creator I wasn’t comfortable making the viewership experience worse to tack onto an already large prizepool. To worsen the viewer quality a streamer would need to pocket a cut to make it “worth it” as well, which would have many meant only 12.5k or 15k towards the prizepool of 70k or whatever.
So in short I think opportunities are out there, but maybe not fitting to tack onto MS prizepools for most creators. MS’s sponsorship is huge for us, the fact we can focus on the event instead of filling ad space is just incredible. I could be wrong on all this btw, just a bunch of theories & stuff from my experience.
Its only aoe4 that has taken a big dip lately, but has been pretty stable since march.Anyone has an idea why all three games took a dip lately? I'm not too familiar with how this site tracks numbers. It looks like daily amount of players but why the lower numbers lately? Is it number of unique players per 2 weeks period instead?
If this data is somehow taken from Steamcharts, you have to be careful with the last week/month/day etc.. depending on the scaling it will otherwise calculate an average on a not finished week/ month and so on.Anyone has an idea why all three games took a dip lately? I'm not too familiar with how this site tracks numbers. It looks like daily amount of players but why the lower numbers lately? Is it number of unique players per 2 weeks period instead?
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we were talkig about the declination of aoe4 after the GL. it was obvious, that game only worksif there is a big big tournament. take that away, and the game is pretty dead.Its only aoe4 that has taken a big dip lately, but has been pretty stable since march.
Aoe2 looks pretty stable.
A small decrease in players during summer months is expected.
And aoe2 got some more players in April-May because of the new DLC
Because of how steam chart works the numbers after may 26 is not correct yet.
we were talkig about the declination of aoe4 after the GL. it was obvious, that game only worksif there is a big big tournament. take that away, and the game is pretty dead.
(and has great potential)
Multiplayerwise in ranked 1vs1 there is:Now even the "Daily Lows" of aoe2:de are consistently higher than "Daily Peeks" of aoe4.
Is there any realistic path for aoe4 redemption or is it forever doomed
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these are all the players that played one time i think, but not the actual number of players.Multiplayerwise in ranked 1vs1 there is:
- 41,758 players ranked in aoe2
- 40,913 players ranked(current old ranked players not included) in aoe4
Maybe? Same guess can be said about aoe2 players.these are all the players that played one time i think, but not the actual number of players.
It is summer, people go to beaches, chase girls and boys instead of microing archers.Anyone has an idea why all three games took a dip lately? I'm not too familiar with how this site tracks numbers. It looks like daily amount of players but why the lower numbers lately? Is it number of unique players per 2 weeks period instead?
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Here I present you the award, statistics that I digged to show a dead game alive.Multiplayerwise in ranked 1vs1 there is:
- 41,758 players ranked in aoe2
- 40,913 players ranked(current old ranked players not included) in aoe4
yes obviously, but the important point is how many players play today, and someone post the picture, and there, age4 is a pitty.Maybe? Same guess can be said about aoe2 players.
Wow, their lives are sad.It is summer, people go to beaches, chase girls and boys instead of microing archers.
dont hit @Tempires on the floor, he is already KO.There's 15234 players currently in the Aoe4 1v1 ladder. https://www.ageofempires.com/stats/ageiv/
There's 41757 in the Aoe2 1v1 ladder https://aoe2.net/#aoe2de-leaderboard-rm-1v1
You are linking the quick match ladder for AoE4. All the cool kids are playing ranked atm, see here: https://aoeiv.net/#aoe4-rankedseason-season-1There's 15234 players currently in the Aoe4 1v1 ladder. https://www.ageofempires.com/stats/ageiv/
There's 41757 in the Aoe2 1v1 ladder https://aoe2.net/#aoe2de-leaderboard-rm-1v1
1st is 2537You are linking the quick match ladder for AoE4. All the cool kids are playing ranked atm, see here: https://aoeiv.net/#aoe4-rankedseason-season-1
40935 players are on that ladder atm. You appear on that ladder if you have atleast played 5 games.
For the AoE2 1v1 ladder its minimum of 10 games and atleast 1 game in the last 28 days.
You realize 1vs1 ranked ladder statistic is completely different than steam player counts? steam player counts show that Aoe2 has much bigger single player playerbase than aoe2. However, AoEZone is more of PvP community so showing ranked statistics along total (steam) player count makes sense too.Here I present you the award, statistics that I digged to show a dead game alive.
Digging is ok, but you should do it to bury the game.
if you use aoe2.net then you should also use aoeiv.net like I did and presenting ranked 1vs1 ladder instead of old ladder that is not used by most people anymore. I even mentioned in my comment that "(current old ranked players not included)" you can see 1vs1 ranked here: https://aoeiv.net/#aoe4-rankedseason-season-1There's 15234 players currently in the Aoe4 1v1 ladder. https://www.ageofempires.com/stats/ageiv/
There's 41757 in the Aoe2 1v1 ladder https://aoe2.net/#aoe2de-leaderboard-rm-1v1
you mean you don't see reality since you took obvious false statement(1vs1 quickmatch instead of 1vs1 ranked ladder) as true without verifying data yourself (I already had presented correct numbers before him) and came after me for that?dont hit @Tempires on the floor, he is already KO. he just doesnt see reality.
Pay no heed to those normiesIt is summer, people go to beaches, chase girls and boys instead of microing archers.