"Put simply, the incubation period is the time between when you are exposed to the disease and when you start showing symptoms. This is usually before the contagious period, when you are likely to give the disease to others."
His math was actually somewhat right. The problems just that he thought most (if not all) games are decided in the 14 minute window, which is the impractical part.Suddenly RicoJay seems so much better.
At-least he argued using math and logic. Even though his math/logic was wrong.
(1) Praising chineses selflessness /civic-mindedness being the key of minimising disease spreadYou really have gone right off the deep end just so you can have your meet up to watch AoE with a few people.
You are aware what you have quoted is generally what incubation period means and not specific to this right?
I mean... if you read literally the next word after what you have posted:
"We don't yet know how contagious the coronavirus is when people aren't showing symptoms, however, there have been a few reports of people transmitting the virus without showing symptoms at all. "
Honestly, what are you doing.
So because there have been a few reports amongst the 100s of 1000s of cases, I should ignore official advice? Honestly what is wrong with you? The meetup is a week away, and as I have said throughout, we will have a reasoned decision then. We won't be influenced by trolls on AoEZone 11You really have gone right off the deep end just so you can have your meet up to watch AoE with a few people.
You are aware what you have quoted is generally what incubation period means and not specific to this right?
I mean... if you read literally the next word after what you have posted:
"We don't yet know how contagious the coronavirus is when people aren't showing symptoms, however, there have been a few reports of people transmitting the virus without showing symptoms at all. "
Honestly, what are you doing.
Missing the point entirely. The ***** I was responding to assumed you were contagious at all points. What are your assumptions now?Lol as if you would know which point in incubation period are you when you go to a social gathering.
Don't worry, I'll post the first photo here. If we decide to go. You can look at it from your isolation bunker and feel smug if you want.No worries people, theHand will probably be alone at the meeting anyway
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...g-contagious-chinese-health-authorities-warn/China's deadly coronavirus is becoming more infectious and carriers of the disease can pass it on even if they show no symptoms, China’s National Health Commission warned on Sunday.
Nearly 2,000 people in China have been infected and 56 killed by the disease, which originated in the city of Wuhan. Cases have now been reported across the globe, including in Thailand, Australia, the United States and France.
“The transmissibility shows signs of increasing and the ‘walking source of infection’ [where patients show little sign of disease] has made it difficult to control and present the disease,” Minister Ma Xiaowei, told a packed press conference in Beijing.
https://www.ft.com/content/ed3fb63e-41ce-11ea-bdb5-169ba7be433dTo catch Covid-19, you need to be physically close to someone shedding significant amounts of virus — which almost always means a person with symptoms of disease, though asymptomatic transmission may occur, albeit very rarely.
Respiratory infections are most commonly spread through the air by viral particles in droplets from a cough or sneeze, though health workers and family members are also vulnerable to infection through close physical contact with patients without good barrier protection.
The incubation period between infection and symptoms appearing can range from two to 14 days. About five days is most common, according to the WHO.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...incubation-period-just-FIVE-DAYS-average.htmlOnce someone has caught the COVID-19 virus it may take between two and 14 days, or even longer, for them to show any symptoms – but they may still be contagious during this time.
If and when they do become ill, typical signs include a runny nose, a cough, sore throat and a fever (high temperature). The vast majority of patients will recover from these without any issues, and many will need no medical help at all.
In a small group of patients, who seem mainly to be the elderly or those with long-term illnesses, it can lead to pneumonia. Pneumonia is an infection in which the insides of the lungs swell up and fill with fluid. It makes it increasingly difficult to breathe and, if left untreated, can be fatal and suffocate people.
Figures are showing that young children do not seem to be particularly badly affected by the virus, which they say is peculiar considering their susceptibility to flu, but it is not clear why.
https://www.theguardian.com/science...s-symptom-free-for-five-days-on-average-studyPeople infected with coronavirus are symptom-free for an average of five days, according to a study that reinforces the need for strict quarantine measures.
The analysis found that 5.1 days was the median length of time before people started showing signs of illness, although there was a wide range of incubation periods, with a tiny minority of people taking up to two weeks.
Justin Lessler, of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and senior author of the report, said: “Based on our analysis of publicly available data, the current recommendation of 14 days for active monitoring or quarantine is reasonable, although with that period some cases would be missed over the long term.”
The findings did not reveal the extent to which people can transmit the illness during this symptom-free period, but preliminary evidence suggests there is at least a short window before people start feeling ill when they can pass on the virus to others.
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/13/long-coronavirus-symptoms-contagious-12392221/A study has found people with Covid-19 could be most infectious before their symptoms even present themselves.
The research suggested the reason for the speed of the spread of the virus could be down to coronavirus’ high rate of viral shedding.
Viral shedding is the process of the virus replicating itself before spreading throughout the host’s body, and it occurs in the early stages of infection.
Scientists found the highest level of Covid-19 to be present before many symptoms presented themselves – so around the time those who were carrying the virus were likely to be spreading the virus in public.
You bring Cheltenham with 1000s of people of all ages into a discussion about a meeting with 10 young people. I'm being disingenuous, or are you?You linked an article to back up your point that then disproves your point the next word, I’m not sure it’s a case of what’s wrong with me, but what is wrong with you - you seem to care so much, why aren’t you even reading the whole article from a place you deem reputable. I assume you are aware that it’s pretty tricky to track down if people are contagious before showing symptoms. The fact that there are cases is the worrying part, it doesn’t mean that only a few people are, it’s we only have proof a few people have - again, because it’s tricky.
Does Cheltenham not worry you? The official advice in Ireland is Cheltenham should have been cancelled, do not go to Cheltenham. If Ireland is in such a bad way that the official advice is not to go are you OK with the fact thousands and thousands flew over? They then went in close contact with many tens of thousands of brits. I don’t know if you have been to Cheltenham but you get up close and personal with many many times more people than at a football game.
I used to think you were a normal member of the community but my god. People who actually finish reading articles are saying they wouldn’t go if the meet up was now - are you trying to say it will get better in the next week? We are allowed to be concerned yet we are ****faces for caring or whatever you have been saying.
I guess it’s time to tap out, you know it’s over when the other person brands everyone against them a troll. Maybe check your posts, if anyone is the offensive one it is you. I love meet ups, right now I would prefer to be sat in a pub with 15 infected than near you, Jesus. I hope you enjoy this meet up as clearly it’s the most important thing on your life right now. I’m not sure the word toxic has even been so apt.
The government being advised by Public Health England. Government is shorthand for best expert advice available to people running the country.It's OK that you missed the point about Cheltenham.
Your whole argument is based around the fact that the Government of the United Kingdom are the only people you will listen to. So I am simply asking you your view on the very people you consider the only experts worth listening to allowing Cheltenham to go around. So again I will ask, given you consider the UK Government the only experts worth listening to what your view on them allowing Cheltenham to go ahead is?
Onto the transmission.
- Rayne says – And if I am not mistaken, you can be unaware you have it but it's still transmittable (someone correct me if I am wrong, lot of misinformation around).
- HongeyKong replies with a quote from WHO.
- You say:
You are assuming people are contagious throughout that entire incubation period. A judgement you have no experience or knowledge to make, and one which the experts deem unlikely. You're like a child trying to explain the night sky.
- HongeyKong says: Jesus fking christ, thats WHO you spud
- You say: Do either of you asshats know what "incubation period" means?
"Put simply, the incubation period is the time between when you are exposed to the disease and when you start showing symptoms. This is usually before the contagious period, when you are likely to give the disease to others."
This is where you link an article that disproves your point. As you can see your point is not FOLLOW WHAT THE UK GOV SAY. This was an off shoot, but a classic online move once you lose an argument is to backtrack so I guess that is what you are going with.
Could you point to the trolls please? Just wondering who you consider the trolls given reading the above I think the toxic individual is pretty clear.
I like to play bridge. The bridge club consists mostly of persons aged > 60 years of age. Last week I made the decision not to go to the bridge club until the pandemic is under control.You guys seem to be under the misconception that I (and others) will go no matter what, regardless of the situation at that time.
Corona starts to become a zombievirus? Imma grab Liz, head over to the hc3 meetup, just because I wanna, and wait for this all to blow over (hyperbole, I know, but who can resist a good cornetto trilogy reference? Mind you, the dutch venue is actually better than the winchester, it serves burgers )
No, if at any point before the meetup the rules become stricter due to changing circumstances and the meetup is actually deemed a high risk (as told by experts, which include none of you) I will not go. We are in direct contact with the venue/host in the discord, we have already been garantueed money back in case it doesnt happen. For now the situation is perfectly fine for the meetup to happen (as told by the experts, which, once again, include none of you) and thus I plan on attending.
Thanks for hosting the tournament, as it's provided energy and excitement for large swathes of the community. Thanks for the balanced and respectful post as well. You obviously don't want people's health and well-being or loss thereof on your conscience. Rest assured here in London we'll be taking everything into consideration, as we've stated all along. I obviously can't speak for the Dutch meet-up, as the facilities, participant numbers, local and national situations are completely different. But I trust they will make the right decision, whatever that might be.This is such a shitty situation lol. Made calls, felt super proud to have Wayback Burgers involved in the Netherlands meetup and then had community members excited to make it happen in other cities. Then Corona hit, news spread quickly, and all around the world things are pretty wild at the moment. From my POV, I absolutely want community members to take their safety seriously, and more importantly not contribute to the potential spread of this around the world. Like Joshua said above, I think it's really important to remember it's less about you than it might be someone else you unknowingly spread it to.
I have however, excited many people to enjoy HC3 together. And as it stands many that bought tickets for the dutch meetup are planning on going and the London meetup that's been kindly organized by others seems to be the same. It's kind of out of hands even though I was the one with the initiative to make it happen which is a bit weird...
So i'll say this. I would honestly prefer people not go to these meetups. There will be plenty more opportunities this year for people to meetup and while I think it's awesome people are hyped to watch it together, it's probably not the wisest time for it. I don't know how much weight my opinion holds at this point but figured i'd chime in.
It's foolproof!I apologise for being initially against this meetup, at first I didn't understand that UK's plan to deal with this deadly virus was to do nothing and just count the bodies. I no longer have anything against it.
It's foolproof!
People can't break restrictions if there are none