TL;DR at the bottom.
Originally I was not sure if I should post this because I was quite pissed off when it happened and I don't like to make public posts in an emotional state. I'd also like to clarify, this post is not meant as a green light to harrass anyone involved, my goal is to raise a discussion, and I'm only judging the decisions made, not the person. All the info I'm sharing is also publicly available, I'm not disclosing confidential information.
Context:
History Hit Open tournament launched not too long ago, and I figured I won't sign up since I expected more top players to attend, however towards the final days of signup phase I noticed that I can still probably get in. Seeding is based on rating (the cutoff for top60 as well), I didn't have tons of time to play but I could have squeezed in a couple games to raise my rating if needed. Paying close attention to the signups it seemed like that was not necessary, and the signups were officially closed on Friday evening. At this point I was surely getting in based on the signups.
It is important to mention that players needed to sign up using both a google form and posting in the official discord. Obviously the players can only see the discord sign-ups, not having access to the google form results.
On Saturday 1 PM CET FlyLikeDjango made this announcement:
I might have just left it alone if it weren't for the specific wording of this sentence. How is it a show of good-will to let players in that failed to understand the 5-sentence registration process written in the handbook, when there is a cutoff for the top60 players, meaning there WILL be players getting left out from the tournament as a result? Players that have completed the registration process fully and on time, and would 100% deserve to get a spot in the seeding.
I still had a saving grace, meaning I can still up my rating until midnight of Saturday - or so I thought.
So the players that were slighted by the previous decision, don't even get the opportunity to increase their rating and their chances to make the cutoff. This makes no sense to me.
The combination of these 2 decisions,and the fact that I didn't increase my rating due to thinking I am in after the signups are officially closed, resulted in me being the 61st rated player, being 0,5 weighted ELO behind the 60th player. It really is comical how it ended up this way.
Why did I get so pissed off about this? Because this is a symptom of a larger illness at this point. I see too many instances of players & admins not giving enough respect to the rules.
-When I have to explain the whole drafting system to my apparently top50 opponent who couldn't bother reading it and wastes my time doing it wrongly.
-When I see top players queueing for a ranked game 5 minutes before the scheduled time. Assuming their opponent will just wait for them. And they do, because no one gets any punishment for being late.
-When some big names are added into a tournament seeding after the brackets are already released.
-When admins actually enforce rules and the affected players act all offended because they haven't read the rulebook prior to signing up.
The list goes on and on. I want to see a change in the general attitude towards rules, because they exist for a reason, and players not caring about them, or admins not enforcing their own rules will usually end up hurting someone else.
Some possible counterarguments to my statement:
-Q: You, dave, are a pleb and would have been eliminated first round against Viper / Yo / Villese / etc. You likely make no difference in the outcome of the tournament, why do you care?
-A: You are right, I would be eliminated first round and it probably wouldn't be close. I still enjoy taking parts in tournaments like this when I can, because playing against a top player in a tournament setting is not an opportunity I get every day. It would be good to just learn a thing or two.
-Q: If all the players signed up properly, you'd have missed out on the tournament anyway, or if simply more top players signed up you wouldn't even have the chance to get in, why u mad bro?
-A: I could have increased my rating to get in despite a couple more sign ups, and if I saw an abundance of top players signing up I wouldn't have bothered with trying.
-Q: In the grand scheme of things, some 19xx players missing out on a high level tournament is no big loss and no one will care, why do you make this post?
-A: That is not the point. I want to see that all players are treated equally, and no one gets hurt because of other people's carelessness.
TL;DR: Badly done signups were accepted after official closing of registration and I among some other players ended up not making the cutoff. Despite the extra day allowed for signups, the already signed up players were not allowed to increase their seeding spot via rating on the extra day. I see a trend of people being careless and I want to see a change in attitude.
Originally I was not sure if I should post this because I was quite pissed off when it happened and I don't like to make public posts in an emotional state. I'd also like to clarify, this post is not meant as a green light to harrass anyone involved, my goal is to raise a discussion, and I'm only judging the decisions made, not the person. All the info I'm sharing is also publicly available, I'm not disclosing confidential information.
Context:
History Hit Open tournament launched not too long ago, and I figured I won't sign up since I expected more top players to attend, however towards the final days of signup phase I noticed that I can still probably get in. Seeding is based on rating (the cutoff for top60 as well), I didn't have tons of time to play but I could have squeezed in a couple games to raise my rating if needed. Paying close attention to the signups it seemed like that was not necessary, and the signups were officially closed on Friday evening. At this point I was surely getting in based on the signups.
It is important to mention that players needed to sign up using both a google form and posting in the official discord. Obviously the players can only see the discord sign-ups, not having access to the google form results.
On Saturday 1 PM CET FlyLikeDjango made this announcement:
I might have just left it alone if it weren't for the specific wording of this sentence. How is it a show of good-will to let players in that failed to understand the 5-sentence registration process written in the handbook, when there is a cutoff for the top60 players, meaning there WILL be players getting left out from the tournament as a result? Players that have completed the registration process fully and on time, and would 100% deserve to get a spot in the seeding.
I still had a saving grace, meaning I can still up my rating until midnight of Saturday - or so I thought.
So the players that were slighted by the previous decision, don't even get the opportunity to increase their rating and their chances to make the cutoff. This makes no sense to me.
The combination of these 2 decisions,and the fact that I didn't increase my rating due to thinking I am in after the signups are officially closed, resulted in me being the 61st rated player, being 0,5 weighted ELO behind the 60th player. It really is comical how it ended up this way.
Why did I get so pissed off about this? Because this is a symptom of a larger illness at this point. I see too many instances of players & admins not giving enough respect to the rules.
-When I have to explain the whole drafting system to my apparently top50 opponent who couldn't bother reading it and wastes my time doing it wrongly.
-When I see top players queueing for a ranked game 5 minutes before the scheduled time. Assuming their opponent will just wait for them. And they do, because no one gets any punishment for being late.
-When some big names are added into a tournament seeding after the brackets are already released.
-When admins actually enforce rules and the affected players act all offended because they haven't read the rulebook prior to signing up.
The list goes on and on. I want to see a change in the general attitude towards rules, because they exist for a reason, and players not caring about them, or admins not enforcing their own rules will usually end up hurting someone else.
Some possible counterarguments to my statement:
-Q: You, dave, are a pleb and would have been eliminated first round against Viper / Yo / Villese / etc. You likely make no difference in the outcome of the tournament, why do you care?
-A: You are right, I would be eliminated first round and it probably wouldn't be close. I still enjoy taking parts in tournaments like this when I can, because playing against a top player in a tournament setting is not an opportunity I get every day. It would be good to just learn a thing or two.
-Q: If all the players signed up properly, you'd have missed out on the tournament anyway, or if simply more top players signed up you wouldn't even have the chance to get in, why u mad bro?
-A: I could have increased my rating to get in despite a couple more sign ups, and if I saw an abundance of top players signing up I wouldn't have bothered with trying.
-Q: In the grand scheme of things, some 19xx players missing out on a high level tournament is no big loss and no one will care, why do you make this post?
-A: That is not the point. I want to see that all players are treated equally, and no one gets hurt because of other people's carelessness.
TL;DR: Badly done signups were accepted after official closing of registration and I among some other players ended up not making the cutoff. Despite the extra day allowed for signups, the already signed up players were not allowed to increase their seeding spot via rating on the extra day. I see a trend of people being careless and I want to see a change in attitude.