It's a private information.Hello whats the amount of money of each contributor? for the 75k could not find it anywhere
There's nothing of that sort currently, and I'm not sure we'll have that. Either way, it will be slightly misleading anyway, as the ultimate list of players is determined by who checks in on the day.Is there a live seeding list for the signups?
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I'm not sure what you're asking for. Players are seeded based on their highest-achieved 1v1 RM rating. As mentioned above, there is no list of the players currently.is there a seed for the guest player list?
Now that I read it again, that would make sense. I'll make a post explaining this in the coming days, thank you.I think hes talking about the seeding for the invited players.
I am pretty sure I saw MembTV explain the seeding that the average of 5 of the 6 tourney results was used to account for Yo not been able to take part in RBW 5. (This method would also benefit Hera, which is lucky for him, as I believe if you don't sign up / in on time, tough).Has there been any explanation posted regarding the seeding of the 16 invited players yet?
I'm looking at them on liquipedia and there are several ties where the tiebreaker appears to be seemingly random which is a shame as there would be some good options.
Also I wonder if anyone could share some insight on the decision making of counting all tournaments for all players. What I mean by this is that if a player couldn't participate in a tournament for any reason the score seems to still count. I'm not saying this is definitively wrong, but for example in Yo's case, not being able to compete in RBW5 is also hurting him in this tournament which is unfortunate.
If the seeding was based on Points Per Tournament instead of Total Points, Yo would get an N/A for RBW5, be able to drop a 20, and have accrued a total of 130 points in 4 tournaments for an average of 32.5 per tournament.
Hera is another interesting case this might affect, and I understand this is where things could get murkier. Should he be given a N/A for TOC. It's his fault he didn't participate, but still forcing him to drop that score for a tournament he didn't participate in is not really reflective of skill and thus not (strictly in my opinion) a good option for seeding. He would then also be able to drop a 20 instead of a N/A and average 32.5 pts per tournament, same as yo.
Viper meanwhile has participated in all 6, would drop a 20 and total 150 points in 5 tournaments for an average of 30 and should be ranked lower.
If all three of them (viper, yo, hera) are kept at the tied score of 150, a tiebreaker of most recent best score would go Viper, Yo, Hera. A tiebreaker of best placements would go (all 3 have one first, only hera has a second) hera, and then yo/viper need another tiebreaker.
It does seem like Liereyy is well deserving of the 1 seed as once he drops HC4 (which with random seeding is dubious to include in the seeding to begin with) his worst performance is a 2nd place. After that things get messy really quick, so I'm just hoping there is clarity on the exact decisions for the rest of the ranks. Points per tournament seems like a more fair way to rank in my opinion, but I think the admins here could easily justify not wanting to go down that path, I guess I'm just interested in if it was considered. I just used certain players as some examples but I'm sure others would be affected to, such as ACCM.
Interesting, I'm pretty sure the lowest scores have been dropped in the past, so didn't expect that to be the solution to the Yo/ACCM RBW5 situation etc. It doesn't seem like the best way in my opinion, as it also allows people who actually performed bad to drop a score, while others are forced to drop a score they may have done well in. Points per tournament would still be my favored approach, but as I've acknowledged its a big grey area which is why I'm hoping for a post explaining the decision making that went into these rankings. Thoughts on including HC4 at same weight as other tournaments, or at all. Reasons behind the tiebreakers etc. This stuff often times just seems not very well thought out to me, and I doubt that is the actual case, but its hard to know when its not very clear and different tournament to tournament.I am pretty sure I saw MembTV explain the seeding that the average of 5 of the 6 tourney results was used to account for Yo not been able to take part in RBW 5. (This method would also benefit Hera, which is lucky for him, as I believe if you don't sign up / in on time, tough).
Has there been any explanation posted regarding the seeding of the 16 invited players yet?
I'm looking at them on liquipedia and there are several ties where the tiebreaker appears to be seemingly random which is a shame as there would be some good options.
Also I wonder if anyone could share some insight on the decision making of counting all tournaments for all players. What I mean by this is that if a player couldn't participate in a tournament for any reason the score seems to still count. I'm not saying this is definitively wrong, but for example in Yo's case, not being able to compete in RBW5 is also hurting him in this tournament which is unfortunate.
If the seeding was based on Points Per Tournament instead of Total Points, Yo would get an N/A for RBW5, be able to drop a 20, and have accrued a total of 130 points in 4 tournaments for an average of 32.5 per tournament.
Hera is another interesting case this might affect, and I understand this is where things could get murkier. Should he be given a N/A for TOC. It's his fault he didn't participate, but still forcing him to drop that score for a tournament he didn't participate in is not really reflective of skill and thus not (strictly in my opinion) a good option for seeding. He would then also be able to drop a 20 instead of a N/A and average 32.5 pts per tournament, same as yo.
Viper meanwhile has participated in all 6, would drop a 20 and total 150 points in 5 tournaments for an average of 30 and should be ranked lower.
If all three of them (viper, yo, hera) are kept at the tied score of 150, a tiebreaker of most recent best score would go Viper, Yo, Hera. A tiebreaker of best placements would go (all 3 have one first, only hera has a second) hera, and then yo/viper need another tiebreaker.
It does seem like Liereyy is well deserving of the 1 seed as once he drops HC4 (which with random seeding is dubious to include in the seeding to begin with) his worst performance is a 2nd place. After that things get messy really quick, so I'm just hoping there is clarity on the exact decisions for the rest of the ranks. Points per tournament seems like a more fair way to rank in my opinion, but I think the admins here could easily justify not wanting to go down that path, I guess I'm just interested in if it was considered. I just used certain players as some examples but I'm sure others would be affected to, such as ACCM.
Thanks for explanation. I've never doubted that the organizers have discussed/are transparent but I personally haven't caught it discussed on twitch and it feels weird to have the qualifier seeding discussed in the handbook clearly and not the main event.As for tie breakers in the seeding it's done based on higher results 1st place and such.
Thank you for the details! I may personally wish some things were calculated using a different method but as I've said I fully understand how these things are complex and difficult and respect the decisions. Although this certainly does compound an already bad situation for Yo. Not only do other players get to drop a bad score too, but he automatically loses the tiebreaker because of RBW5. Ouch!I was wondering if I should go into long explanation of the system used right now. But as everything KotD related feedback always was important so here it is.
It's played on the newest patch. Players have been aware of this and have been able to practise using the public preview build.Is tournament played on old patch? Balance patch day before tournament could cause some upsets
Good surprises*Is tournament played on old patch? Balance patch day before tournament could cause someupsets
@IYIyTh As our resident Incas expert, thoughts on this?How are they going to stop full kamayuk play? Kamayuk op