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Lets start from the top, there are a lot of aspects of your post to look at.
The pause: Not sure of the specifics as to why the tournament was put on hold but if it was related to the discussion surely it shows that the admins are taking consideration of the ideas of the seeding as opposed to ignoring it though granted it did cause issues for a lot of players.
Seeding: Depends whether the admins have the same opinion as you about the seeding, who is to say that they agree that it was incorrect? Also they don't have the power of foresight so they couldn't have predicted how teams reacted over the course of the tournament. Even if it was a mistake what happened can't be undone, better of making suggestions for future tournaments rather than this one since everyone understands what happened here.
Also I think it was no more than say 6 or 7 people that were upset about the settings out of thoudands of players, just something to ponder. Nothing wrong with having a different opinion from most people but the way you guys present your ideas is horrendously provocative, as will be shown in my next point.
"conspiracy": Saying that there is a conspiracy is absolute nonsense and frankly insulting to everyone that has worked hard to make this tournament work, its phrases like this that personally get on my nerves. The "discussion" was moved to off topic because of the number of comments that had no relevance to the thread and were just flaming, I assume so since i didn't move it myslef.
As to why i deleted the comments i can give a few reasons,
1) Personal issues leading to bad judgement
2) the fact that you were trying to take your opinion on this topic into every single other thread on aoczone, keep the discussion to these threads, no need to add cynical "crap seeding and admins blah blah" in all the other threads too.
I stopped being a mod due to the personal issues here and on the streams
Also considering there are 40+ pages of discussion on this I would hardly call it censorship. Everyone who reads aoczone knows of this whole thing by now.
Also I agree that the way people reacted to initial comments was just flaming but its not like you guys didn't do the same, trying to provoke people wherever possible. If you have an outspoken opinion about something you can't sink to the level of the other people, you need to stay professional and show that you are mature about it (I understand the irony in this but lets move on from that).
The better you understand how you come off to other people the better you will be able to see why they react the way they do, some will just be trolling and some will just be annoyed that they feel you guys are just complaining and trying to ruin the tournament as opposed to just feeling frustrated at the way things have gone.
This comment wasn't made to flame, it maybe off topic but it is in the off topic thread after all. Just something to think about. Even though I think that personally SY are better than KGB, looking at everything that happened and how both teams participated earlier in the tournament ill not make a judgement on the admin choice since i wasn't part of the discussion and don't know what factors they used to make the choice.
This was also a big point from junxed about how the seeding should be transparent, granted I can see why, you need to know how the teams were chosen to have a good idea of how to argue against it right? Well maybe as edie calls me i am just a sheep that follows the heard but i trust the admins enough to make a good judgement and if they are wrong then i'm sure they would admit to it.
If you want more say in future tournaments maybe you should get involved with the admins and organisation to give another perspective on things, it would help you to see how things are done, or not considering you think its all a big conspiracy in the first palce, honestly if i thought thats how things operated here i would never be part of this community.
I would make the message shorter but conveying ideas in a small amount of words is a skill i lack sadly, gl hf with the discussion. I may post again if you want to discuss anything i mentioned (i'm sure you disagree with most of it but thats ok).
Peace
The pause: Not sure of the specifics as to why the tournament was put on hold but if it was related to the discussion surely it shows that the admins are taking consideration of the ideas of the seeding as opposed to ignoring it though granted it did cause issues for a lot of players.
Seeding: Depends whether the admins have the same opinion as you about the seeding, who is to say that they agree that it was incorrect? Also they don't have the power of foresight so they couldn't have predicted how teams reacted over the course of the tournament. Even if it was a mistake what happened can't be undone, better of making suggestions for future tournaments rather than this one since everyone understands what happened here.
Also I think it was no more than say 6 or 7 people that were upset about the settings out of thoudands of players, just something to ponder. Nothing wrong with having a different opinion from most people but the way you guys present your ideas is horrendously provocative, as will be shown in my next point.
"conspiracy": Saying that there is a conspiracy is absolute nonsense and frankly insulting to everyone that has worked hard to make this tournament work, its phrases like this that personally get on my nerves. The "discussion" was moved to off topic because of the number of comments that had no relevance to the thread and were just flaming, I assume so since i didn't move it myslef.
As to why i deleted the comments i can give a few reasons,
1) Personal issues leading to bad judgement
2) the fact that you were trying to take your opinion on this topic into every single other thread on aoczone, keep the discussion to these threads, no need to add cynical "crap seeding and admins blah blah" in all the other threads too.
I stopped being a mod due to the personal issues here and on the streams
Also considering there are 40+ pages of discussion on this I would hardly call it censorship. Everyone who reads aoczone knows of this whole thing by now.
Also I agree that the way people reacted to initial comments was just flaming but its not like you guys didn't do the same, trying to provoke people wherever possible. If you have an outspoken opinion about something you can't sink to the level of the other people, you need to stay professional and show that you are mature about it (I understand the irony in this but lets move on from that).
The better you understand how you come off to other people the better you will be able to see why they react the way they do, some will just be trolling and some will just be annoyed that they feel you guys are just complaining and trying to ruin the tournament as opposed to just feeling frustrated at the way things have gone.
This comment wasn't made to flame, it maybe off topic but it is in the off topic thread after all. Just something to think about. Even though I think that personally SY are better than KGB, looking at everything that happened and how both teams participated earlier in the tournament ill not make a judgement on the admin choice since i wasn't part of the discussion and don't know what factors they used to make the choice.
This was also a big point from junxed about how the seeding should be transparent, granted I can see why, you need to know how the teams were chosen to have a good idea of how to argue against it right? Well maybe as edie calls me i am just a sheep that follows the heard but i trust the admins enough to make a good judgement and if they are wrong then i'm sure they would admit to it.
If you want more say in future tournaments maybe you should get involved with the admins and organisation to give another perspective on things, it would help you to see how things are done, or not considering you think its all a big conspiracy in the first palce, honestly if i thought thats how things operated here i would never be part of this community.
I would make the message shorter but conveying ideas in a small amount of words is a skill i lack sadly, gl hf with the discussion. I may post again if you want to discuss anything i mentioned (i'm sure you disagree with most of it but thats ok).
Peace