The way Nili smiles in his recent appearances and the way he gets kind of inappropriately emotional in some situations seriously concerns me. I havent seen that before from him.
What did you say? Sorry I can't hear you over the big pile of aoe4 bugsMy conclusions after reading this topic. No matter how much you've done for this game. People will hate you if you start to like another game more.
Anti Aoe4 guys, maybe you should start doing something for AoE2 yourself instead of breathe fire and brimstone on the aoezone. Oh, it's easier to just write words here, nevermind.
100%. It seems like people forget that it was nili who made nac possible and one of the most prestigious tourney series ,redbull wololo possible, its not even close to what nili has done for aoe franchise behind the scenes over these years.My conclusions after reading this topic. No matter how much you've done for this game. People will hate you if you start to like another game more.
Anti Aoe4 guys, maybe you should start doing something for AoE2 yourself instead of breathe fire and brimstone on the aoezone. Oh, it's easier to just write words here, nevermind.
Just don't play it and strange noises will stop. If not, try to visit a doctor.What did you say? Sorry I can't hear you over the big pile of aoe4 bugs
Nobody has to prove that Aoe2 is better. It is pretty obvious already which game is better.Just another AoE2 mainstream drama, trash talking about AoE4 and doing nothing for AoE2.
Keep calm and organise a Black Forrest tournament to prove your point that AoE2 is better.
Sure, AoE2 is better. So?Nobody has to prove that Aoe2 is better. It is pretty obvious already which game is better.
It was mentioned in the Masmorra interview that Nili has a girlfriend. Thats probably why he seems more happy than usuallyThe way Nili smiles in his recent appearances and the way he gets kind of inappropriately emotional in some situations seriously concerns me. I havent seen that before from him.
AoE3 was a disappointing release and AoE4's issues need no repeating. I think most fans of AoE2 wanted to like AoE3 but couldn't because of all the changes and subpar usage of 3D graphics. In the case of AoE4 it is positioned in a way that brings it into conflict with AoE2 so it is normal for people who prefer AoE2 and feel like their game is being attacked to respond to AoE4's struggles in a hostile way.Sure, AoE2 is better. And?
The funniest thing in our community is this desire to scream that our game is fcking awesome and all other games suck.
It was always embarrassing for me reading AoE2 vs AoE3 wars on some forums.
Someone said AoE3 is cool game? Lets reply "Your game is bad, AoE2 is better, we have more tournaments, more players, more blahblahblah".
Now history repeats itself with AoE4.
My conclusions after reading this topic. No matter how much you've done for this game. People will hate you if you start to like another game more.
Anti Aoe4 guys, maybe you should start doing something for AoE2 yourself instead of breathe fire and brimstone on the aoezone. Oh, it's easier to just write words here, nevermind.
In NAC3, there was huge counter under the screen with every donated prize money, some part of it went to casters crew, overlay guy and Nili which is %3 for each. Additional he has public google file called nili goals all the jumps you see there as subcount and follower count are NAC tournament. If Nili has a bigger stream audience than membTV (I guess now Nili is behind again), he owes it to NAC tournaments.I don't think this is true?
Not sure about Nili taking prize pool from NAC3, but it would not be unreasonable to take a coordinator fee (although the primary motivation is usually channel growth). Nili has committed to publishing a full breakout of expenses etc for NC4, so as long as that transparency is real, we can see how the money is spent.
That's wrong. People don't hate Viper who committed himself to AOE4 for a month, even earlier than others.My conclusions after reading this topic. No matter how much you've done for this game. People will hate you if you start to like another game more.
Anti Aoe4 guys, maybe you should start doing something for AoE2 yourself instead of breathe fire and brimstone on the aoezone. Oh, it's easier to just write words here, nevermind.
Maybe money wasn't the only factor?We all know these 3 guys left just for money, but they presented lame excuses instead of just being sincere. Now they are reaping what they sow.
I doubt your wisdom.We all know these 3 guys left just for money, but they presented lame excuses instead of just being sincere. Now they are reaping what they sow.
halo's a different situation. that game generates lots of traffic and cross-sells so many things
halo gets a new game every year or every two years. there are lots of microtransactions (most multiplayer game revenue is mtx now, even for pay-to-play games). and it leads to xbox live subscriptions, gamepass subscriptions, purchases of xbox consoles, purchases of xbox controllers, xbox headsets, purchases of other xbox games. microsoft gets a cut of everything. and on xbox digital store they keep 100% and people mostly pay full price, unlike on steam
an aoe2 fan being loyal on twitch doesn't translate to any additional revenue. you're valuable for individual streamers and amazon (twitch) and google (youtube), but not microsoft. even if you buy more steam games or a better graphics card or a better mouse, microsoft doesn't benefit
aoe2's situation is closer to starcraft. even though SC2 was a full-priced game with $40 expansions and some other DLCs and on a store with other games that gave 100% of revenue to blizzard, it wasn't enough. and starcraft even herded the viewers to their own channels (or the TO's channels) instead of letting random streamers get the bulk of the money, but it barely matters
i'm not saying there shouldn't be aoe2 tournaments, but i don't think $100K is reasonable. do some crowdfunding. hope for sponsors. get the streamers to fund more of it. but expect smaller prizes
Do we even know for sure that Nili is the one making decisions about how to allocate money for events?I'm not even saying that $100k prize pools should be the norm, I'm just saying the entire system could be different if there was any actual thought put into the esports scene vs Nili just allocating money to various streamers as he sees fit.
See previous clips in this thread in which he says exactly thisDo we even know for sure that Nili is the one making decisions about how to allocate money for events?
Do we even know for sure that Nili is the one making decisions about how to allocate money for events?
Anti Aoe4 guys, maybe you should start doing something for AoE2 yourself instead of breathe fire and brimstone on the aoezone. Oh, it's easier to just write words here, nevermind.
You two realize that a not-insignificant amount of previous NAC funding came directly from the community right? Liquipedia may not acknowledge it, but the community donated tens of thousands of dollars to see NAC succeed, which it did. What's more many people on this forum and in this very thread support aoe2 in a variety of ways, hosting showmatches, running or admining tournaments, even just supporting small content creators.Just another AoE2 mainstream drama, trash talking about AoE4 and doing nothing for AoE2.
t90 and theviper went to fb. They were the two biggest streamers for AoE but their move to Facebook made them pretty much irrelevant in the streaming-business.* So even if t90 and theviper have already stated that aoe4 is garbage and are both back to aoe, the aoe2 has still lost them in a way.Are you really sure that you lost 2 biggest AOE2 streamers? Didn't viper already come back on AOE4?
And as AOE4 goes out of the trend, we SC2 players can go back on SC2 by any times
And how this has anything to do with aoe4? those are about aeo2 and already benefited aoe2.You two realize that a not-insignificant amount of previous NAC funding came directly from the community right? Liquipedia may not acknowledge it, but the community donated tens of thousands of dollars to see NAC succeed, which it did. What's more many people on this forum and in this very thread support aoe2 in a variety of ways, hosting showmatches, running or admining tournaments, even just supporting small content creators.
T90 never went to from aoe2 to aoe4, he only casted last rounds of Genesis and couple videos at launch(between all of his 14 aoe4 videos 3-2 months ago he made 15 aoe2 videos). viper and many else has also said aoe2 is in bad state in past ( or garbage if we take your interpretation ).t90 and theviper went to fb. They were the two biggest streamers for AoE but their move to Facebook made them pretty much irrelevant in the streaming-business.* So even if t90 and theviper have already stated that aoe4 is garbage and are both back to aoe, the aoe2 has still lost them in a way.
Do we even know for sure that Nili is the one making decisions about how to allocate money for events?
It's been mentioned publicly, can't point to a specific moment where I heard it but I have and I have no "direct source" into any company, just no life and watched almost every bit of RBWV coverage (from the final to the road trip to get to the castle)I can't disclose the direct source where I know this from, I can tell you Red Bull paid the production, World Edge the Prize pool.