what Vivi said is not the truth totally. he was blamed by Chinese fans not for his bad playing, it was for his awful attitude to games.we were clear AM was far stronger than SY, nobody including Yo fengxin and lyx said SY would win except vivi himself. why fans **** vivi? because vivi did few communications with Yo and lyx, he just listen music in the games! his two elephants and two sheeps were stolen, he never told his teammates and asked for re, he said he forgot it, and there are lots of the same bad behavior I cannt write here for the poor English.Many ppl are interested about this and span questions on several stream, so i ganna tell what i know, and translate article which wrote by vivi
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Quick Q&A
Q: Vivi left SY?
A: Yes
Q: Why?
A: Because his teammates and SY fans blame him very very hard
Q: What's his new name (nozouhaoma) mean?
A: zou = "go" or "leave"
haoma = "ok?"
take the "no" English meaning, this become "don't go, ok?" or "don't leave, ok?"
another reasonable explain "no" is mistype from "wo", which means "I"
so wozouhaoma means "I leave, ok?", highly match his condition now
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Background knowledge
Original SY have tons of fans due to their very good past
Yo is like national hero of china because he is the only competitive china player in very top level
Vivi's not good performance in NC17 is memorable to china viewers
As much more viewer and fans Yo and Fengxin have, their word been trust by most china ppl
SY vs VNS
After winning two games, SY fans prepared to win, but then SY lost 3 streak, so the viewers got crazy
Lots of viewer went to Vivi's stream and blame him in chat (most of they from Yo and Fengxin's stream)
After this day Vivi don't get stream income (he mention this in the article, too)
(the platform Douyu need viewer more than certain number to get "income”, i don't know detail but guess ad income)
my opinion: G3 BacT chop tree and get in cannot blame anyone, G5 All SY lost to their opponent
But G4 Vivi went CA not knight really cost SY the game and the series (which disagree with his article)
After SY vs aM
Both Yo and Vivi said he will not team each other anymore in the future
And then Vivi left SY, changed his voobly name, also changed his Douyu name to "the strongest aoe player"
my opinion: This match don't need to find who played bad because the difference is too big
If Vivi play his 100% will they advance? i don't think so, but SY fans still thinking they are 1st in the world
It's like players and viewers need to find one guy to vent anger on
I didn't watch their stream so don't know too much (and they don't likely to upload VOD of lost)
so maybe some their viewer can give more detail here
I heard that viewers not only blame his skill, but also blame his attitude (not felt sad and still smile after lost)
The article is here, i feel translate my original language to English is 100x harder than English to Chinese 11
and until now other SY guys don't have article for this
we have not heard the other side so careful to be biased!
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Vivi's Article Translation (Original Post Link)
Last year i joined SY with thankful, because SY had got much weaker too, and they didn’t have enough players. I had received prize money and donation from SY boss, thus i wanted to join SY and perform there, to thank SY boss, and to save SY. I was good friend of Yo, too. But I was totally wrong, maybe i’m not strong enough.
Viewers have too high expect for SY, they have very good tournament achievement recent years. But those time have past, those time have gone. BoA is playing in WK, and this is the first time play on this version and maps, many strategies have not discovered yet, so i play it with a normal mind, as a practice, i thought the road is still long.
But when we lost to VNS, many viewers came to my stream blaming me, cursing me, that was the first time i undergo this kind of thing. When i went to Yo’s and Lyx’s stream, viewers were blaming me either, nobody blame Yo and Lyx. I was very sad, i think i played ok, my opponent died and thus he went sling. It was Yo and Lyx not using monk and siege defend elephants properly, the real reason we lost not sure was me. But this things affect my stream directly. I work hard for 4 months stream 12 hours per day to have enough viewer count to receive income, unexpectedly gone in one day, i was very disappointed. I wanted to blame Fengxin, but i didn’t. Because only he had streamed without delay, viewers had watched god POV there, whatever he said the viewers think it is true. From then on my stream became no income, I have only relied on some loyal fans’ donation to maintain my life.
I thought i was new in SY, lost some money is ok, but it’s not true. Last week we won LoS but viewers were still blaming me, they said I just had been lain there, if Yo Lyx were not carrying me we would not win. I was very dispointed, lost was always because me, win was always crediet to them. I also need praise!
When we vs aM my Spainish castle couldn’t go up is my bad, but when i watched recorded game i found Yo and Lyx stop 5 villagers at 13 min, their eco was really bad. But my failed castle is more obvious so guys said it’s lost because of me. Second game my two elephant lamed but forgot to call re, i could only go sling, and guys said lost because of me again. G3 I played very perfect, but Yo failed to wall, lost some villager to Liereyy’s dr. When Lyx go out no military with him, so gg agin. I became all the SY fans’ angry object.
AOE is a small game, opponent is stronger than us, younger than us. If you say i played bad, i’m okay with it, but Yo and Lyx are not too much better, it’s no point to keep in SY. My mental is not that strong. Now i want to say sorry to SY boss, but i will not abandon AOE and streaming, no matter it have income or not. I will keep playing, lovers please stay here, haters please leave. I am I, a different firework.
Interesting to see this perspective. Communication is so key; it can be so frustrating to not get it down well. But apparently DauT missed some key walls in some recent match, and is he actually getting ripped on too much? No, because everyone does something stupid every once in awhile.what Vivi said is not the truth totally. he was blamed by Chinese fans not for his bad playing, it was for his awful attitude to games.we were clear AM was far stronger than SY, nobody including Yo fengxin and lyx said SY would win except vivi himself. why fans **** vivi? because vivi did few communications with Yo and lyx, he just listen music in the games! his two elephants and two sheeps were stolen, he never told his teammates and asked for re, he said he forgot it, and there are lots of the same bad behavior I cannt write here for the poor English.
Because Daut is king.Interesting to see this perspective. Communication is so key; it can be so frustrating to not get it down well. But apparently DauT missed some key walls in some recent match, and is he actually getting ripped on too much? No, because everyone does something stupid every once in awhile.
1111Funny how Yo changed one of his user names into “the Fat-Dragon Slayer” 11
As a big time viewer of several china top players’ stream, let’s take a look at the POV of Agoodperson!
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1. I have watched china top player’s stream 2~3 hrs a day for 3~4 years. First talk about the impression of they. Yo is a elegent person, seldon angry with others. Fengxin would not blame teammates in public. Lyx is old nice person, smile all the day. Vivi is arrogant and full of bad language. He always call other player (Yo included) as noob (the “noob” word in chinese is more insulting than it in english). Many his viewer left his stream because of this.
2. Fengxin Yo Lyx wouldn’t blame Vivi on stream, the guys who blame him is mainly viewers (include his channel moderator).
3. His name means “I leave, ok?”
4. He spent about 79USD to changed his Douyu name to "the strongest aoe player", as a response of left SY. Because he really think he is the bast player in the world.
5. SY boss enjoy watching stream, and give donation very often, to every high level players in china (include geoffrey, xiaofan…), not only Vivi. It’s not SY boss ask him to join, it’s his willing to join SY because he think Frantic is bad. It’s funny that he have said he would not join SY for sure in last year. (And SY boss was there by coincidence 11)
6. Vivi’s stream income is 2nd in the china, because he stream very long time, and some his viewer enjoy he insult other country’s player, and he set betting(for real money) about many small things like next villager is man or women, killed number is odd or even, something like that.
7. Vivi’s income going down because his random game and tournament game level have a big difference. in rated game he always say he is 1st and despise Viper, call Yo and Tim is noob. Some viewer trust him, but after seeing his lost and bad attitude in tournament, some viewers gone. Despite this, some china viewer likes to see he win and insult other country’s players is rated game, his income is not as low as what he said.
8. Vivi is the most not willing person to practice and discussing strategy in SY, he says it’s because play with SY his viewers will go to others stream. In the tournament his communication is the least, and always wait others ask and then talk something. (but he always scream like crazy in rated game). After tournament game, If win, he very arrogont and watch recorded game to see where he doing good, where others doing bad. If lost, viewers blame him, then he blame they back, so some viewer gone by this.
9. Vivi say he is new in SY so always blame him, not blame his teammate, this is not true. China viewers is full of blaming. Fengxin say he don’t play because be blamed too much. Yo be blamed for late and Lyx be blamed for housed very often. But for Vivi, he likes to say others play bad. But viewer know some about play good and bad, if he plays bad but don’t admit mistakes, then of cause he will be blamed. And another thing he ban a lot of viewer in his chat, and usually blame viewers back. Comparison to Yo Lyx apologize while playing bad, then viewers will not blame them too hard, so Vivi be blamed is due to himself.
10. About losing to aM, some days before tournament Fengxin ask to have a meeting about strategy, because opponent too strong. In SY, Fengxin don’t play in tournament so hard to command others, Yo is kind so if first time he ask and other don’t do, then he will not ask second time. Lyx is ok to do everything. But Vivi, cannot control by anyone. If some guy talk too much, he get angry and called others noob. In Frantic Tim cannot control him, too. SY no strategy meeting is due to Vivi, before he join, SY often do this.
11. In the tournament, why he so passive? Vivi think he is so strong, why don’t let him play the main civs and ask him to play as support? Sometimes in game Yo ask Vivi to do something, Vivi is not willing to listen to it, he like to play in his style.
12. All in all, Vivi is not mature, arrogant, no cooperation in team. Like to show of but don’t want response. But he is also diligent, stream a lot everyday, i hope him get better.
I laughed a lot at this too 11 imagine bet for this rofl, ridiculously hilarious"like next villager is man or women "
lmao 111111111111111
we all know what you will say for next villager edie, so....I laughed a lot at this too 11 imagine bet for this rofl, ridiculously hilarious